Re-visioning Our History: An Interview with Michelle Cliff -- Part 3

Jim Clawson

Did your creative writing begin when you received your Masters of Philosophy, or were you always a creative writer?

No, in fact I didn't start until much later. When I got out of the University of London, I came back to New York, and I worked in publishing as an editor and then I was also teaching at the New School. In New York, I started talking to the authors I was working with and I got involved tangentially with the Women's Movement. It was an exciting time, and people were writing and publishing, and talking about writing, and I just fell into it. It was quite accidental. The first thing I ever wrote was after I'd read an article in Ms. magazine, which was about Jamaica which was such nonsense it made me very, very angry. And I wrote a letter to the editor of Ms., which was edited in such a way that it made me praise the article, and they never passed it by me and so I started writing about Jamaica.

You say that came out of the Women’s Movement. Do you see yourself as a feminist writer?

No. I didn't see myself as a feminist writer then. I was given permission through things in the feminist movement to be a writer.

Your first book, Claiming an Identity they Taught Me to Despise, reminds me, in many ways, of collage.

Yeah, it is like collage. I wrote that book when I had a 9-5 job and I didn't have time to sit down and write a sustained narrative, so I wrote it in sketches in my office. I think the form reflects the conditions under which it was written.

And also video art.

But a lot of my work has to do with movies, I mean that comes out of having been just, I don't know, drowned in film since I was a little kid. When we lived in Jamaica, there was no television, and we read books obviously, but we went to the movies several times a week.  My father adored the movies, we'd go to triple features, which is three movies in one night, sometimes outdoors under the stars. It's really quite an experience: watching Spartacus in Jamaica under the stars.

You write both poetry and prose.

Well, I haven't written poetry in an awful long time. I don't consider myself a poet at all.

What compels you to choose certain forms. Is it unconscious?

Well, I live with a poet, so I think its natural to choose prose. No, I'm kidding. I really don't know. I know the Caribbean books, Abeng and No Telephone to Heaven. They couldn't be contained in a book of poetry. I had just so much to say, so much to get in there. I'm not saying that poetry couldn't do that, but I couldn't do that in poetry. And then Free Enterprise, which is a novel very close to my heart, and which is out of print, was a really concerted effort to rewrite history with regards to the raid on Harpers Ferry, and so that was a conscious decision to write a historical novel.

I guess the prose work that is most poetic are my short stories, and those are quite poetic and quite brief, if you talk about the use of language.

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