Answers to my Semester at Sea Query
Recently I posted a question about world-wide dial-up access from a 14-week cruise ship: "Semester at Sea." (see the question at
http://www.pitt.edu/~g alletta/semesterquestions.html).I received a great deal of helpful advice from several people on this list. I also received a few repeated questions from several individuals, as follows:
Q. Why not use IMMARSAT? The ship is likely already equipped with it.
A. The cost is $12 per minute. That is not feasible for class demonstrations.
Q. How big is the ship? Is it a sailing vessel?
A. The ship is 25,000 tons (a medium-sized cruise ship), and definitely NOT a sailing vessel.
Q. How can I arrange such a trip?
A. The Semester at Sea is open to faculty in other institutions, and business professors are in high demand. They look for some international experience and "successful undergraduate teaching." If you are accepted, you must negotiate being away from yo ur school for the complete fall or spring. If you’re lucky, you can shift your teaching a bit and not impact your salary too much. To compensate for any lost wages, Semester at Sea pays $7,000 and requires you to teach 9 credits at the undergraduate level . The courses are expected to involve field projects for 20% of the grade, and students work on them while at port.
Q. Is there room for me?
A. Only if I leave my wife and/or 2 girls at home!
Again, see information at http://www.pitt.edu/~voyage
In response to my query, I received two types of messages. Some were (1) helpful personal messages and others were (2) messages of general interest that I post below.
(1) Helpful personal messages
I’d like to thank the following (listed in order of their replies) for their kind personal messages with leads to other individuals, kind words, offers of connection via their universities, or offers of inquiry to Iridium officials:
Cynthia Beath, Southern Methodist University
Gerardine DeSanctis, Duke University
Phillip Ein-Dor, Tel-Aviv University
Sirkka Jarvenpaa, University of Texas, Austin
Nava Pliskin, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Mark Fuller, Baylor
Michael Ginzberg, Case Western Reserve University
Lawrence Sanders, Buffalo
Dina Rateb, American University of Cairo
Dov Teeni, Bar-Ilan University
(2) Messages of general interest
I’d also like to thank the following (listed in order of their replies) for their kind, generous help. Some spent significant time looking up locations and access number lists, and contacting others who followed up promptly. These messages were received from:
Enrique Dans, UCLA
Ram Krishnan, Carnegie Mellon
Bernadette Szajna, Texas Christian University
Kevin Crowston, Syracuse University
Alan Dennis, University of Georgia
Sheizaf Rafaeli, University of Haifa
Roger Clarke, The Australian National University
Sue Conger, Southern Methodist University
Ron Murch, University of Calgary
Mark Ginsberg, Berkeley
Tom Worthington, Australian Computer Society
Josep Valor, IESE – Barcelona
Mike Uretsky, NYU
Justin Smart via Roger Clarke
Tan Wui Gee, Singapore
Miguel A. Morales, Interamerican University of P.R.
Anton van Reeken, Universitair Hoofddocent Informatiemanagement
Pierre Buhler
The messages in their entirety appear below:
From Enrique Dans
Hi Dennis!
This is what you have with CompuServe (Yes: local number, No: no access numbers in that country, Not local: access through some other city in the country). But the Iridium idea sounds exciting!
Vancouver, BC - Yes
Kobe, Japan - Yes
Hong Kong - Yes
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam - No
Penang, Malaysia - Yes
Chennai, India - No
Suez; Not local
Haifa, Israel - Yes
Istanbul, Turkey - Yes
Civitavecchia, Italy - Not local
Casablanca, Morocco - No
Port Everglades, FL - Yes
Regards, Enrique Dans
edans@anderson.ucla.edu
and his later follow-up:
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Hi Dennis!
The only reason why I'm keeping my CompuServe account is because it allows me to get a plain connection almost everywhere (in fact, I only use it when I travel or when the university server is too crowded). The WinCim software is huge and almost useles s, but in fact you don't even need to install it. You only need to keep the connection settings in your Dial-up folder and a list with all the access numbers, and you are set (well, is better if you also take with you one of these kits with all the models of telephone and electric plugs...) They use to give you access to their proprietary network, and Internet access was a separated thing, but now everything goes through the Internet, and once you are connected, you can use your email programs, telnet or whatever. Don't rely in getting a speedy connection everywhere, in some places their nodes are still 9,600.
Regards,
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Enrique Dans
edans@anderson.ucla.edu
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From Ram Krishnan
Dennis,
Here are some suggestions.
1. get a compuserve account. They have impressive connectivity worldwide. Check out their page on the web at
http://www.compuserve.com/content/ww_main.asp. I have used them in E urope and they have local access numbers in several countries.2. Forward your email to web accessible email server. Pop is inefficient for these purposes. This way you can access email using your web browser. One possibility is to get a hotmail account and forward your email to hotmail (or any such free email ser vice on the web).
Sounds like a fun experience.
Cheers!
Ram Krishnan
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Ramayya Krishnan
Professor of Management Science and
Information Systems
The Heinz School of Public Policy and Management and
Institute for Complex Engineered Systems
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
email: rk2x@cmu.edu
Web:
http://krishnan.heinz.cmu.edu____________________________________________________________
From Bernadette Szajna
IBM.NET has World Wide access (I've used it in London and French countryside) but it costs extra now. You'd have to find out how much. They are at
http://www.ibm.netBernadette Szajna
szajna@ibm.net
And in a later message:
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Good luck to you... it sounds like a really fun experience!! If the phone
jacks in the Far East are anything like those in Europe, you'll need an extra
suitcase
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From Kevin Crowston:
For option 3, I use IBM net (www.ibm.net) and it seems to have a lot of dialups around the world. I've found it pretty reliable overall. (Even if you work out #1 or #2, you'll probably want an ISP as a backup.)
I scanned through their list and found #s for
Vancouver, BC; Kobe, Japan; Hong Kong; Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia; Haifa, Israel; Istanbul, Turkey; Rome, Italy; Miami, FL
Sounds like a great trip!
Kevin Crowston
Syracuse University
School of Information Studies
4-206 Centre for Science and Technology
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
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From Alan Dennis:
IBM Global network is the ISP I use (and love them - and I never thought i'd say that about IBM). IBM claims to have access from more than 50 countries.
See:
http://www.ibm.net/regctr/accessnum.htmlor more generally:http://www.ibm.net/
Alan Dennis,
Associate Professor
Department of Management, Phone: 706-542-3902
Terry College of Business Fax: 706-542-3743
University of Georgia Home: 706-613-7807
Athens, GA 30602 USA Email: adennis@uga.edu
WWW Home Page: www.cba.uga.edu/~adennis
Telecom Textbook: www.wiley.com/college/dennis/datacomm6e
HICSS: www.hicss.hawaii.edu
ICIS: www.icisnet.org
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From Sheizaf Rafaeli:
Hello!
I have run into similar needs in the past, and had to rely on internet cafe's throughout Europe, Central America, etc. So your note struck a chord
...
At the moment, IBM (
http://www.ibm.net) has local access numbers in about 50 countries, including US, Canada, Hong Kong, Japan, Israel, Italy, Turkey and Malaysia. I don't think they have solutions in Vietnam, Morocco or India. They may offer a partial solution at reasonable costs.Prof. Sheizaf Rafaeli
Graduate School of Business
University of Haifa
sheizaf@earthlink.net
http://econ.haifa.ac.il/~sheizaf
Co-Editor, Journal of Computer-Mediated Communication (JCMC)
http://jcmc.huji.ac.il
, http://www.ascusc.org/jcmcTel. +972-4-8249578
Fax +972-4-8249194
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From Roger Clarke:
G'day Dennis
>> >3. Failing that, does anyone know of a global ISP that has local dial-up
>> >numbers world-wide? AT&T has (or used to have) a proprietary network
>> >product called "Access" with world-wide dial-ups, but their service was not
>> >TCP/IP 5 years ago when our Flex MBA program used it.
I last looked at this in October/November 1997. With the assistance of one colleague, I've updated the list to the following:
Two wholesalers that sell wide-area connectivity to retail ISPs (including the giants):
http://www.ipass.com/
http://www.gric.com/
An example (among a few) of a specific ISP's implementation thereof:
AT&T's 'Global Roaming' service, at:
http://www.att.net.au/products/roaming.html
I look forward very much to your collation back to ISWorld! (*Before* you sail off into the sunset).
Regards ... Roger
Roger Clarke
http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd, 78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 AUSTRALIA
Tel: +61 2 6288 1472, and 6288 6916
mailto:Roger.Clarke@xamax.com.au
http://www.xamax.com.au/Visiting Fellow, Faculty of Engineering and Information Technology
The Australian National University Canberra ACT 0200 AUSTRALIA
Information Sciences Building Room 211 Tel: +61 2 6249 3666
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From Sue Conger:
Hi Dennis,
This semester sounds so fantastic. What a great experience. Here's a site with internet cafe site links.
http://w1.2789.telia.com/~u278900335/indexa.html Some are in the real world. Some are cyber cafes. There are over 2000 real world cafes with loads in Japan so you should be able to find one in most places. Have a great time.Sue
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From Ron Murch:
Dennis:
I just came back from a sabbatical in the UK and I used IBM's Global Network to access all my mobile computing needs. AT&T appears to have purchased the IGN Division but I have noticed no change in service. They have 2 plans. In Canadian funds, the y are $9.95/month for 10 hours and 29.95 for 100 hours access then each has a surcharge for "extra hours". I used the 100-hour one while in England and then switched to the 10-hour one after. It has been fine.
Try
http://www.ibm.net/index.html.I also use a TP770 with a 3Com 33.6/Ethernet combo card and I was never skunked for contact while travelling. I did need a good telephone connection kit and got a good one from TeleAdapt Inc. (
http://www.tel eadapt.com). They may have some good ideas for your equipment/connection/sponsorship arrangements too.I also think you could look at a global cellular service (slow at 9600 CDPD but it still might work OK for you from various ports) or Inmarsat services. How about taking your own satellite dish?? If they can broadcast and "do Internet" from Everest, yo u ought to be able to do the same.
Ron Murch
Faculty of Management, University of Calgary
On Sabbatical July, 1998 to August, 1999
Presently based in Calgary
Internet: murch@ucalgary.ca
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From Mark Ginsberg:
Your point 3: IBM GLobal Network has many global (local) dial up numbers. People at St Gallen (Swz) had a choice of 4 local no's in Hawaiian islands, so it must be pretty comprehensive.
They got a PPP from dialup then they "replicated" their swiss mail to their local laptops using Domino.
Iridium digression (stop me if you've heard this): Upkar Varshney told a great story about Iridium at HICSS.
Originally the # satellites in orbit (planned) equalled the atomic number of iridium. But, the management pulled back to 66 satellites. That's dysprosium! Bad name. So they tried a new name, Iridium-66, but then got a threatened lawsuit from Philips-66 ! Now it's just Iridium again... but think "dysprosium".
-mark
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From Tom Worthington:
Roger Clarke passed on your request for help:
>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:48:29 -0500
>From: "Dennis F. Galletta" <galletta@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
>To: ISWORLD@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>
>It looks pretty certain that I will be spending a mini-sabbattical
>(September through December 1999) on board Semester at Sea ...
You have made thousands envious around the world, including me. ;-)
>>There are three things I'd like some advice on:
>>
>>1. Does anyone know anybody influential at Iridium? ...
Had a visit from an Iridium VP a few months ago, will see if I have their card at work. Iridium did seek expeditions to provide units to for PR purposes (one was a sled-trek to the South Pole). Might also be worth trying Motorola and Samsung (?), who s ell the handsets and would want to promote it.
However, I haven't seen any announcements of data adaptors for Iridium and my cursory examination of the technology was that it didn't particularly suit Internet type applications, as it is really designed for voice. It should only work about as well a s Internet via GSM.
>>2. Failing that, is anyone aware of any Internet Cafes that allow a person
>>to plug in a notebook? ...
You might like to consider GSM as one option. However, it is really only suitable for e-mail, text web browsing and the occasional up-load. It should work when the ship is in port or just off the coast of a GSM equipped country. See comments on GSM and Internet on the move at:
* UK:
http://www.acs.org.au/president/1996/epubs/uk.htm* Mid air:
http://www.acslink.net.au/~tomw/travel/balloon.htmOther options might be:
* Magellan's GSC 100: this is a hand held unit for two-way e-mail, using the ORBCOMM satellite communications service. This is limited to short messages, but should work anywhere. They might be interested in providing a unit for PR. See:
* IMMARSAT: The ship is probably equipped with it already. You would have the problem of interfacing and usage costs perhaps more than Iridium. IMMARSAT also works with laptop sized terminals, as well as ship mounted units . IMMARSAT or one of the termianl companies may be interested in marketing. IMMARSAT is re-sold by various telcos around the world.
* AMATEUR RADIO: I would be surprised if there wasn't an amateur radio operator on the ship. They may have HF or satellite facilities. A packet radio unit for data over radio costs about $US200, if they haven't already got one. The advantage would be t hat communications costs would be free.
See: Introduction to Packet Radio:
http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/pktfaq.html>>3. Failing that, does anyone know of a global ISP that has local dial-up
>>numbers world-wide ...
One technique I have used is to contact the nearest University or research organization and ask to use their network connection. Works if you have an interesting story to tell (which you do).
ps: My only experience of ship-based Internet was logging on to the Australian Defence Force Academy from the USS Blue Ridge during a military exercise. They use a 3m dish and multi-mbyte links:
http://www.acs.org.au/president/1997/travel/tt97/adfasem.htm
Tom Worthington tomw@acslink.net.au
http://www.acslink.net.au/~tomw/Immediate Past President, Australian Computer Society PO Box 13
Director, Internet Society of Australia Belconnen ACT 2617
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From Josep Valor:
Hi Dennis,
No clue about Iridium or a network of cafes, but IBM Global Network is very cheap and has local access number almost everywhere. Colleagues of mine have logged in from Shangai to Delhi with great ease and reliability.
By the way, take along some motion sicknes pills!.
Josep Valor
IESE - Barcelona
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From Mike Uretsky
I have used IBM Global Network around the world without any problems. Cheap also. Try cutting a deal with them for the publicity.
Mike Uretsky 212-998-0844
NYU 212-995-4228 (F)
44 West 4th Street
New York, NY 10012
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From Justin Smart via Roger Clarke:
>Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:05:12 +1100
>To: Roger Clarke <Roger.Clarke@anu.edu.au>, ica@cmis.csiro.au
>From: Justin Smart <jsmart@one.net.au>
>Subject: Re: Semester at Sea: Internet access? (help needed)
>Cc: ica@cmis.csiro.au
In response to Dennis' query about global access services - Dennis may want to try AT&T again. I was working with a global team travelling through Asia earlier this year and investigated the same problem. From memory (and I'll admit that's hazy at the best of times) AT&T was the only ISP I could find that offered one user account for global POP's on their own network. I'm sure they'd be fully compliant with standard technologies now days, although I can't confirm that for sure.
>
>Regards
>
>Justin Smart
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From Tan Wui Gee
Hi Dennis,
I don't really know whether this is helpful to you. Singapore is a major telecom hub in the South-East Asian region and you may be able to make internet connection via the facilities available here. Perhaps you might want to pose some questions to the people at www.singnet.com.sg
Again, I don't know whether the info I offer is useful to you. BTW, since you are into global e-commerce there is a very recent article in Forbes (
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/99/0111/6301066a.htm ) which may be of interest to you.Cheers,
Wuigee
Singapore
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From Miguel Morales:
Hi:
No matter if you get "Walkie Talkies" or Smoke Signals plese post this experience to the ISWORLD List. I want to know how was it.
For your problem I beleive that you can write a proposal to Iridium (www.iridium.com) and tell them this idea of Global Teaching with the Advertisement they are looking for. I believe they have true global access (i mean, the celular phone does not get the signal in Hong Kong or some other interference problems) and a phone conected to your Laptop via modem can be the best thing. Good Luck.
Prof. Miguel A. Morales, M.B.A., M.I.S.
Coordinator
Management of Information Systems
Interamerican University of P.R.
Ponce Campus
Mercedita Sta.
Mercedita, PR 00715
mmorales@ponce.inter.edu
tel. 787-284-1912 x.2077, 2079
fax.787-841-0103
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From Anton van Reeken:
Dennis, cann't you use what all these sailing ships use to navigate and operate their races from one part to another part of the world?
Kind regards,
Anton van Reeken, Universitair Hoofddocent Informatiemanagement
Universiteit Maastricht
Bedrijfseconomie
Postbus 616
6200 MD Maastricht, Nederland
tel. +31.43.3883693
email: A.vanReeken@berfin.unimaas.nl
via HappyMail!
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From Pierre Buhler:
I received copy of your note about communicating at sea. You need to go on the internet where several authors address the issue. The nature of what you do on your computer will require a more expensive solution. On line satellite access would r equire a terminal between $1,400 and $3,000 (depending on which Imarsat you use) and between $1.5 to $3.5 per minute. I am not sure how to connect to an ISP behind Imarsat.
The usual way sailors connect is through SSB but you only get Email through an intermediary server and at low transfer speed (1,200bps).
I will try to find out the Internet addresses and forward them to you.
Regards and good wind,
Pierre